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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby katesisco » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:36 am

Nuetrons as compressed hydrogen works for me. But why 2008? Nothing new?
As a non scientific person who wants to find the reason, I have considered that G1.9 is not an orbiting body, but an invader in Sol’s heliosphere when it punctures the ORT shell. I conjecture this anti matter is being repelled from a system probably Centauri and is caught between Centauri’s and Sol’s. Its orbit is merely a repelling between the two systems. As it could not maintain its nuclear compressed matter (G Gammow) it lost the hydrogen gas maintaining the quantum to enforce light into non-vivratory status, silence. I term this LT (light therminus). As the small anti matter LT starbit lost its gas, it could no longer compress Sol’s heliosphere down to Mercury, and allow expansion to rule on Earth temporarily, ala the floating mountains of Pandora.

This past occurrence was at least from close to 15,000 years ago survivable by the inhabitants of Earth. The extinction event of 12,900 y ago was due to the insufficiency of the LT to compress sufficiently and the rivers in the sky collapsed. The smarter us whose primary scientific interest was in maintaining the anti-gravity zone between appearances of the LT starbit (G1.9) were then forced to act diametrically and set about maintaining the non-expansion Earth via the moderation of input and outgoing energy through the pyramids. Their goal was to preserve the planet. The LT is now a neutron star having burped the gas necessary to maintain its LT status. Neutrinos are now being shed heavily while it makes its brief appearance into Sol’s domain.

As we obey the Second Law, it seems unlikely we will obtain a source of energy sufficient to restore anti-gravity even in spots on E. If the smarter us couldn’t restore the sky rivers of anti gravity, the future of our gravity well planet seems assured.

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby sjw40364 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:22 pm

I think standard cosmology is finally starting to realize the data is becoming too much to ignore. I have noticed a lot of articles lately about plasma and magnetic fields. Of course only a few actually mention the word electricity, but even in the ones that don’t you can see it screaming in the background to be noticed. I think they have just fought the idea so long they are no longer sure how to accept all the new data and it is more like a bad habit that they are trying to break.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby kiwi » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:51 pm

sjw40364 wrote:I think standard cosmology is finally starting to realize the data is becoming too much to ignore. I have noticed a lot of articles lately about plasma and magnetic fields. Of course only a few actually mention the word electricity, but even in the ones that don’t you can see it screaming in the background to be noticed. I think they have just fought the idea so long they are no longer sure how to accept all the new data and it is more like a bad habit that they are trying to break.

someone needs to get a few links through to these people … the history of Plasma Cosmology would be a good start, and then the EU Guide for desert 8-)

http://phys.org/news/2012-01-galactic-m … sters.html

Why is the universe magnetized? It’s a question scientists have been asking for decades. Now, an international team of researchers including a University of Michigan professor have demonstrated that it could have happened spontaneously, as the prevailing theory suggests.

The findings are published in the Jan. 26 edition of Nature. Oxford University scientists led the research. “According to our previous understanding, any magnetic field that had been made ought to have gone away by now,” said Paul Drake, the Henry S. Carhart Collegiate Professor of Atmospheric, Oceanic, and Space Sciences and a professor in physics at U-M. “We didn’t understand what mechanism might create a magnetic field, and even if it happened, we didn’t understand why the magnetic field is still there. “It has been a very enduring mystery.” With high-energy pulsed lasers in a French laboratory, the researchers created certain conditions analogous to those in the early universe when galaxies were forming.

Through their experiment, they demonstrated that the theory known as the Biermann battery process is likely correct. Discovered by a German astronomer in1950, the Biermann process predicts that a magnetic field can spring up spontaneously from nothing more than the motion of charged particles. Plasma, or charged particle gas, is abundant in space. Scientists believe that large clouds of gas collapsing into galaxies sent elliptically shaped bubbles of shockwaves through the early universe, touching off flows of electric current in the plasma of the intergalactic medium.

Anyone who has built an electromagnet in middle school science class is familiar with this concept, Drake said. “If you can make current flow, you make a magnetic field,” Drake said. The question in astrophysics was what could have generated the current. This experiment demonstrated that such asymmetrical shockwaves could do the job. The results, Drake said, aren’t particularly surprising. But it’s important for scientists to test their theories with experiments. “These results help strengthen the understanding that we’ve taken from our interpretation of astrophysical data,” Drake said. “And understanding the universe and most definitely the origin of life is one of the great human intellectual quests.” More information: The paper is titled “Generation of scaled protogalactic seed magnetic fields in laser produced shock waves.” Provided by University of Michigan

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-01-galactic-m … s.html#jCp

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby sjw40364 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:29 pm

No, it would be much too obvious that electrical pathways, i.e. Birkeland Currents are driving those magnetic fields. Much too simple an idea for those trained to look for Black Holes, Dark matter, etc. to come to the obvious conclusion. Why, the math just might work if they tried it.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby sjw40364 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:56 am

What makes magnetic fields is simple, charge. E=mc^2 demands all particles have charge even at rest. Moving charges in particles cause magnetic moments in those particles. Why would it be a surprise that moving charges cause magnetism in space?

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Before the 1970s, physicists were uncertain about the binding mechanism of the atomic nucleus. It was known that the nucleus was composed of protons and neutrons and that protons possessed positive electric charge while neutrons were electrically neutral. However, these facts seemed to contradict one another. By physical understanding at that time, positive charges would repel one another and the nucleus should therefore fly apart. However, this was never observed. New physics was needed to explain this phenomenon.

A stronger attractive force was postulated to explain how the atomic nucleus was bound together despite the protons’ mutual electromagnetic repulsion. This hypothesized force was called the strong force, which was believed to be a fundamental force that acted on the nucleons (the protons and neutrons that make up the nucleus). Experiments suggested that this force bound protons and neutrons together with equal strength.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_interaction

It was later discovered that protons and neutrons were not fundamental particles, but were made up of constituent particles called quarks. The strong attraction between nucleons was the side-effect of a more fundamental force that bound the quarks together in the protons and neutrons. The theory of quantum chromodynamics explains that quarks carry what is called a color charge, although it has no relation to visible color.[3] Quarks with unlike color charge attract one another as a result of the strong interaction, which is mediated by particles called gluons.

Why would it be so difficult to understand moving charges make magnetic moments, that is exactly why they realized a neutron was not a fundemental particle as it possessed a magnetic moment yet was considered neutral. The same neutral as space is considered to be, yet moving charges create magnetic moments in neutrons. 1+1 = 2.

It is confusing to them because they are trying to explain the magnetic fields gravitationally and not electrically.

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Unread postby Sparky » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:43 am

This hypothesized force was called the strong force——The theory of quantum chromodynamics explains that quarks carry what is called a color charge,—- Quarks with unlike color charge attract one another as a result of the strong interaction, which is mediated by particles called gluons.

Where is gravity mentioned? I only see types of charges in what you posted. You can’t be suggesting that the strong force is gravity!

Actually, until you and those who proffer charge as an attractive/repellant field, explain what it is, you are really no more accurate than those who throw out gravity as a cause. Effects are not an explanation!

And throwing in speculative quarks and gluons only muddies up the mix.

By definition, there can be no electricity/magnetism at the subatomic level, unless there are charged particles, and those need to be explained, not just proclaimed. Until then, effects can be observed, but they do not explain what is happening and why.

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby sjw40364 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:17 pm

Sparky wrote:

This hypothesized force was called the strong force——The theory of quantum chromodynamics explains that quarks carry what is called a color charge,—- Quarks with unlike color charge attract one another as a result of the strong interaction, which is mediated by particles called gluons.

Where is gravity mentioned? I only see types of charges in what you posted. You can’t be suggesting that the strong force is gravity!

Actually, until you and those who proffer charge as an attractive/repellant field, explain what it is, you are really no more accurate than those who throw out gravity as a cause. Effects are not an explanation!

And throwing in speculative quarks and gluons only muddies up the mix.

By definition, there can be no electricity/magnetism at the subatomic level, unless there are charged particles, and those need to be explained, not just proclaimed. Until then, effects can be observed, but they do not explain what is happening and why.

I am claiming there is no fundamental force called the Strong Force:
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I am saying there exists no fundamental force but that of charge.

That charge explains everything even gravity: http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/3 … ode73.html

What is gravity? I am no more speculating than standard cosmology is speculating. Is it just a coincidence that only gravity and charge are totally unknown? Look up magnetic maps of the moon and gravitational maps of the moon, tell me if they are similar?

Magnetic map: http://core2.gsfc.nasa.gov/research/pur … index.html

Gravitational map: http://lunarnetworks.blogspot.co.uk/201 … ghest.html

I say gravity IS charge and when we all figure out what charge is then we will know what gravity is. E=mc^2

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby D_Archer » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:22 am

sjw40364 wrote:I say gravity IS charge and when we all figure out what charge is then we will know what gravity is. E=mc^2

I still think Miles Mathis has the best physical model for charge, ie real photons with mass and radius that spin.

The field that is charge is very large, i think people forget how many photons there are, and they are everywhere.

I would describe the photon field as a plasma and matter is structure in the field.

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:14 pm

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By definition, there can be no electricity/magnetism at the subatomic level, unless there are charged particles, and those need to be explained,…

Sparky,
Those definitions may need be broadened

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread postby jone dae » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:28 pm

Hello there,
So, I’m Dr. Jone Dae and my research partner is Mr. Jae Kamel. And we have already, but in a different way, produced lists of links that accomplish what – is it MGmirkin? – is trying to accomplish with this new blog. The main difference is, that the relevant links are on different Lists, and in the appropriate categories on those Lists. As I’ve explained several times on this site, on Thunderblogs, we first became interested in the EU in about 2002, owing to Don Scott’s websites, which are now on archive.org. Then we found and read Alfred De Grazia’a Quantavolution series, and, realized how important it was for others to know of their work, and so on. We didn’t “connect the dots” about all that was going on here on this website, for a long time, owing to the demands of our respective lives, our free time available, and so on. Starting last year though, we began watching and downloading all the relevant videos from you tube, etc., and including them in our Lists, which we then mailed out to our friends, contacts, colleagues, and so on. So, in other words, what I am trying to do is make my (our) separately made set of links for all the biological, geological, and astronomical electromagnetic phenomena, available for you to use here. We have nothing to sell and nothing to advertise. We do this work for, what might be called personal reasons; however, the intelligent reader can easily think of several wisdom traditions or religions which emphasize service, giving to others, and so on. Also, note that I’m blogging about all this on WordPress, see http://jonedae.wordpress.com/2012/12/16 … -urls-jku/ }here for example to look at the relevant blogs.
Or rather, look here http://jonedae.wordpress.com/ }to see the relevant blogs, that other links is just for the Index and TOC of JKU.
I encourage you to look at the Lists. We have many more links about, for example, electromagnetism and human biology, than you do; but what’s more important, is that we don’t just post a link: we read and review each website, and provide an annotation, a review or summary, of each and every link that we provide; and only JKU does that for you. Our collection of links is better than using, say, google, since no search engine will provide annotations or reviews for you.
And of course, eventually I’ll be looking at your links, to see if their are any that we’d like to use for our Lists. The JKU are finished; we completed the set earlier this year, and so will not be making any new ones. What we’ve done since then, is to develop the existing ones, and, of course, the constant re-checking for dead links, typos, incorrect annotations, etc., that keep our Lists usable. And we may not find any that we can use, but, I felt that it would be more honest to say so. If you have any questions about our work, feel free to ask me.
It seems kind of strange to us to have worked to “get the word out” to our friends, contacts, colleagues, etc., by ourselves, and then to suddenly this year discover how much activity takes place on this website! It is a huge website now, and David Talbott is to be congratulated for having done us, science, and the advance of human knowledge such a big favor, by founding Thunderbolts, and by his constant work on this for all those years.
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